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		<title>By: Euro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paypal is a good way to pay online, but it&#039;s made for consummers, not for sellers.

People think that it&#039;s safer than typing your credit card number

The commission is paid by sellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paypal is a good way to pay online, but it&#8217;s made for consummers, not for sellers.</p>
<p>People think that it&#8217;s safer than typing your credit card number</p>
<p>The commission is paid by sellers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jurek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jurek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola a todos, he creado este grupo para hacer un Censo con la cantidad mayor posible de personas que tuvieron, tienen y creen que tendran problemas con Paypal. He sido una victima de problemas con ellos durante mas de 2 años y ya me canse de tanta mentira, fraude, engaños, robo, en fin podria llenar un libro de acciones negativas de Paypal. Quisiera buscar la manera de crear una revolucion ante este problema que esta afectando a miles, quizas millones en Paypal ya que supuestamente los usuarios de todo el mundo superan los 200 000 000 increiblemente, quisiera reunir la mayor cantidad de personas posibles y entre todos buscar la manera de solucionar lo que hasta ahora ha sido imposible.

Hi all, I created this group to make a census with the greatest possible number of people who had, have and believe they will have problems with Paypal. I have been a victim of problems with them for over two years and already I am tired of so many lies, fraud, deceit, theft, finally I could fill a book of negative actions of Paypal. I would like to find a way to create a revolution against this problem that is affecting thousands, perhaps millions in Paypal since supposedly users worldwide exceeded 200 million incredibly, I would like to gather as much people as possible and together seek how to solve what has so far been impossible. I&#039;m sorry if I have some mistakes in my writing but I don&#039;t know even the English language to perfection
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Paypal tiene que pagar por todo lo que ha hecho, por ultimo me propuso que pagara un saldo pendiente de un robo que me hicieron online hace mas de un año el cual me afecto el credito y el me devolveria la cuenta, bueno resulto que pague el dinero que me habian robado y luego de hacerlo me dijeron que no me darian la cuenta de vuelta y que mi cuenta se cerrara. Todas aquellas personas que quieran unirse son bienvenidas a mi grupo y por favor, dejen todos sus comentarios aqui, quizas valgan de algo algun dia.

Paypal has to pay for everything he has done, Paypal finally asked me to pay an outstanding balance of a scam that someone online made me more than a year ago which affected me the credit and they would restore access to my account. Well I paid the money I had cheated and after wards tol...d me they would not give me the account back and that my account would be closed. All those people who want to join my group are welcome and please leave your comments here, maybe some day help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola a todos, he creado este grupo para hacer un Censo con la cantidad mayor posible de personas que tuvieron, tienen y creen que tendran problemas con Paypal. He sido una victima de problemas con ellos durante mas de 2 años y ya me canse de tanta mentira, fraude, engaños, robo, en fin podria llenar un libro de acciones negativas de Paypal. Quisiera buscar la manera de crear una revolucion ante este problema que esta afectando a miles, quizas millones en Paypal ya que supuestamente los usuarios de todo el mundo superan los 200 000 000 increiblemente, quisiera reunir la mayor cantidad de personas posibles y entre todos buscar la manera de solucionar lo que hasta ahora ha sido imposible.</p>
<p>Hi all, I created this group to make a census with the greatest possible number of people who had, have and believe they will have problems with Paypal. I have been a victim of problems with them for over two years and already I am tired of so many lies, fraud, deceit, theft, finally I could fill a book of negative actions of Paypal. I would like to find a way to create a revolution against this problem that is affecting thousands, perhaps millions in Paypal since supposedly users worldwide exceeded 200 million incredibly, I would like to gather as much people as possible and together seek how to solve what has so far been impossible. I&#8217;m sorry if I have some mistakes in my writing but I don&#8217;t know even the English language to perfection<br />
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Paypal tiene que pagar por todo lo que ha hecho, por ultimo me propuso que pagara un saldo pendiente de un robo que me hicieron online hace mas de un año el cual me afecto el credito y el me devolveria la cuenta, bueno resulto que pague el dinero que me habian robado y luego de hacerlo me dijeron que no me darian la cuenta de vuelta y que mi cuenta se cerrara. Todas aquellas personas que quieran unirse son bienvenidas a mi grupo y por favor, dejen todos sus comentarios aqui, quizas valgan de algo algun dia.</p>
<p>Paypal has to pay for everything he has done, Paypal finally asked me to pay an outstanding balance of a scam that someone online made me more than a year ago which affected me the credit and they would restore access to my account. Well I paid the money I had cheated and after wards tol&#8230;d me they would not give me the account back and that my account would be closed. All those people who want to join my group are welcome and please leave your comments here, maybe some day help us.</p>
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		<title>By: mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 02:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stop saying that, paypal does not care of your posts here. I know there are several websites of complaining paypal like paypalsucks.com, its impossible for paypal top executives do not know their exit. The merchants who use paypal obviously could get more business coz paypal is really more convinient then other methods of online payment, or you could list many kinds of payment on your website and let customers to choose. If you think one transaction is not safe, you can require the customer to change a way to pay.  You should use more time of verifying each orders, its not very difficult but it takes time for you to get that kind of experience. You see more webs that sell online gaming product working fairly well, you should consider how they work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stop saying that, paypal does not care of your posts here. I know there are several websites of complaining paypal like paypalsucks.com, its impossible for paypal top executives do not know their exit. The merchants who use paypal obviously could get more business coz paypal is really more convinient then other methods of online payment, or you could list many kinds of payment on your website and let customers to choose. If you think one transaction is not safe, you can require the customer to change a way to pay.  You should use more time of verifying each orders, its not very difficult but it takes time for you to get that kind of experience. You see more webs that sell online gaming product working fairly well, you should consider how they work.</p>
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		<title>By: women's lingerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>women's lingerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 12:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have very bad expirience with Paypal, I am on eBay since 2005 have a lot of positives all 100% are positives, and Paypal block my money if I recive payment above 199$ for 21 days ! That is horrible, I am paying them 5% per transaction and they hold them for the 21 days ?

THis is sick. Ive changed them to Moneybookers. Never will use Paypal again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have very bad expirience with Paypal, I am on eBay since 2005 have a lot of positives all 100% are positives, and Paypal block my money if I recive payment above 199$ for 21 days ! That is horrible, I am paying them 5% per transaction and they hold them for the 21 days ?</p>
<p>THis is sick. Ive changed them to Moneybookers. Never will use Paypal again</p>
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		<title>By: bertkoka</title>
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		<dc:creator>bertkoka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 15:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had the same thing happen with PayPal, almost exactly as you describe...
Our business it&#039;s going bust because of paypal...
   
 &quot;We have observed activity in this account that is unusual or potentially
    high risk.

    For your protection, we have limited access to your account until
    additional security measures can be completed. We apologize for any
    inconvenience this may cause.&quot;

They have limited the ability of my account to withdraw or send money.

Invoices, business registration, prof of address tons of prof were sent to lift the limited access, and still our paypal appeal was denied by so called account specialists.
Really disappointed....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had the same thing happen with PayPal, almost exactly as you describe&#8230;<br />
Our business it&#8217;s going bust because of paypal&#8230;</p>
<p> &#8220;We have observed activity in this account that is unusual or potentially<br />
    high risk.</p>
<p>    For your protection, we have limited access to your account until<br />
    additional security measures can be completed. We apologize for any<br />
    inconvenience this may cause.&#8221;</p>
<p>They have limited the ability of my account to withdraw or send money.</p>
<p>Invoices, business registration, prof of address tons of prof were sent to lift the limited access, and still our paypal appeal was denied by so called account specialists.<br />
Really disappointed&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone,

I often hear this stories. Maybe you should try out AlertPay. Check this: www.alertpay.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone,</p>
<p>I often hear this stories. Maybe you should try out AlertPay. Check this: <a href="http://www.alertpay.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alertpay.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paypal screwed me over too.  I bid on some dishes on ebay - from a pattern called Acapulco which hasn&#039;t been made since the &#039;70s - and the description said &quot;All in good condition, no chips or cracks&quot;.  Upon receiving them, 5 of the dishes have chips and 2 cups have cracks in them.  The seller refused to refund my money so I escalated it to a claim with Paypal who state&quot;If you pay via Paypal and if the item is not as described you are eligible for Paypal protection&quot;  Bullshit.

Paypal decided in the seller&#039;s favor and I get squat for a refund and I&#039;m stuck with worthless dishes that I can&#039;t even resell on ebay - unless I lie about the description like he did.  

The moral of the story is: if you make a high-end purchase, or any purchase on ebay for that matter, make damn sure you pay by credit card because your credit card company will reverse the charge if there is any discrepancy with the item.  They&#039;ve got your back - unlike Paypal who don&#039;t give a damn about you and spend less than a minute making their decision.  It also didn&#039;t cost them any money to decide against me because they might have had to do some work and go after the seller to get my money back.

Paypal blows big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paypal screwed me over too.  I bid on some dishes on ebay &#8211; from a pattern called Acapulco which hasn&#8217;t been made since the &#8217;70s &#8211; and the description said &#8220;All in good condition, no chips or cracks&#8221;.  Upon receiving them, 5 of the dishes have chips and 2 cups have cracks in them.  The seller refused to refund my money so I escalated it to a claim with Paypal who state&#8221;If you pay via Paypal and if the item is not as described you are eligible for Paypal protection&#8221;  Bullshit.</p>
<p>Paypal decided in the seller&#8217;s favor and I get squat for a refund and I&#8217;m stuck with worthless dishes that I can&#8217;t even resell on ebay &#8211; unless I lie about the description like he did.  </p>
<p>The moral of the story is: if you make a high-end purchase, or any purchase on ebay for that matter, make damn sure you pay by credit card because your credit card company will reverse the charge if there is any discrepancy with the item.  They&#8217;ve got your back &#8211; unlike Paypal who don&#8217;t give a damn about you and spend less than a minute making their decision.  It also didn&#8217;t cost them any money to decide against me because they might have had to do some work and go after the seller to get my money back.</p>
<p>Paypal blows big time.</p>
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		<title>By: biggfredd</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggfredd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: update.

Most CC and merchant account issuers don&#039;t allow you to use your card for your business.  A cash advance lets them charge interest immediately instead of after a grace period, and if you have a kickback card of some sort, cash advances aren&#039;t included in your CC use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: update.</p>
<p>Most CC and merchant account issuers don&#8217;t allow you to use your card for your business.  A cash advance lets them charge interest immediately instead of after a grace period, and if you have a kickback card of some sort, cash advances aren&#8217;t included in your CC use.</p>
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		<title>By: KillTheMonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>KillTheMonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a casual seller. I sold a book on Ebay in Dec. The buyer said they never got it. I knew he had, and had a hunch he may be reselling it on Amazon. I looked around for the book on Amazon and found a likely seller. Not using my real name and address, I asked for pictures of the book he had for sale, as I had taken pictures of the book for Ebay. Comparing the pics he sent to the pics I took I was stunned to see that I was right, it was my book. He also signed his name, the same as the buyer from Ebay. I bought the book. It was sent from the same city as the Ebay buyer. 

Ebay didn&#039;t listen. They constantly cut me off when using the online Live Chat, there is no phone number. They did not want to investigate AT ALL. 
The buyer claimed a chargeback. I supplied everything I had to Paypal. $17.00 worth of faxes. (the book was only worth 27) I lost the dispute. 

Here&#039;s one thing I haven&#039;t heard anyone talk about. Internet scams and fraud. The FBI has a special section dealing with these kind of crimes. What that guy did to me is a FELONY punishable by years in prison! The amount of the theft/fraud/scam doesn&#039;t matter. 

I&#039;ve filed a complaint at www.fbi.gov . You can upload your evidence, photos, receipts... everything. There is also a question about which sites were involved. In other words, the more people that implicate Paypal, and Ebay. The faster this will stop. 

It is my opinion, that Paypal and Ebay are complicit in this fraud as they turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to obvious crimes. There may not be any legal precedent for what Paypal and Ebay are doing, it&#039;s time to write some, make an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a casual seller. I sold a book on Ebay in Dec. The buyer said they never got it. I knew he had, and had a hunch he may be reselling it on Amazon. I looked around for the book on Amazon and found a likely seller. Not using my real name and address, I asked for pictures of the book he had for sale, as I had taken pictures of the book for Ebay. Comparing the pics he sent to the pics I took I was stunned to see that I was right, it was my book. He also signed his name, the same as the buyer from Ebay. I bought the book. It was sent from the same city as the Ebay buyer. </p>
<p>Ebay didn&#8217;t listen. They constantly cut me off when using the online Live Chat, there is no phone number. They did not want to investigate AT ALL.<br />
The buyer claimed a chargeback. I supplied everything I had to Paypal. $17.00 worth of faxes. (the book was only worth 27) I lost the dispute. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one thing I haven&#8217;t heard anyone talk about. Internet scams and fraud. The FBI has a special section dealing with these kind of crimes. What that guy did to me is a FELONY punishable by years in prison! The amount of the theft/fraud/scam doesn&#8217;t matter. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve filed a complaint at <a href="http://www.fbi.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.fbi.gov</a> . You can upload your evidence, photos, receipts&#8230; everything. There is also a question about which sites were involved. In other words, the more people that implicate Paypal, and Ebay. The faster this will stop. </p>
<p>It is my opinion, that Paypal and Ebay are complicit in this fraud as they turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to obvious crimes. There may not be any legal precedent for what Paypal and Ebay are doing, it&#8217;s time to write some, make an example.</p>
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		<title>By: 909</title>
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		<dc:creator>909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. This article is the final make-or-break for PayPal and me. I&#039;ve already zeroed out my account and detached my financial stuff, account will be closed immediately. now to find a better processor. Thanks for the heads up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. This article is the final make-or-break for PayPal and me. I&#8217;ve already zeroed out my account and detached my financial stuff, account will be closed immediately. now to find a better processor. Thanks for the heads up!</p>
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